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    America, Israel, and the Jews (With David Klion)

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    America, Israel, and the Jews (With David Klion)
    America, Israel, and the Jews (With David Klion)

    U.S. President Donald Trump welcomes Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to his Mar-a-Lago club on December 29, 2025 in Palm Beach, Florida.

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    Aaron and Matt are joined by Nation columnist David Klion to talk about the role that Israel has played in the rise of American fascism and what it all means for American Jews like Aaron, David, and not Matt.

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    Aaron Regunberg



    Aaron Regunberg is a climate lawyer, a contributing editor at The New Republic, and a former Rhode Island state representative.

    Jonathan Smucker



    Jonathan Smucker is cofounder and executive director of Popular Comms, a cofounder of Pennsylvania Stands Up, and the author of Hegemony How-To: A Roadmap for Radicals. He has worked for over 25 years as a political organizer, campaigner, and strategist, and has trained thousands of organizers and social movement participants.

    Matt DaSilva

    Matt DaSilva is a co-host of the Fighting Fascism podcast.

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